NOBODY told us that this is not just the season ending but also the end OF THE WHOLE SERIES as well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And then John Logan also tries to fool us by saying it was exactly planed that way...Penny Dreadful | John Logan's Farewell | SHOWTIME Series
No sry if that was the story Mr. Logan wanted to tell than he didn't do it very well with all the details he put into it... I was also told that he opened some exciting doors to keep it all up. And that the one who will/should have replacing him were the guy from Hate/love, I guess it is - Stuart Carolan?! So WHY????????? Just because of the rating? The money?
And sorry but with statements like from this interview--- I just can laugh and shake my head still...tvline.com/2016/06/20/penny-dr…
That's a joke right???
LOGAN | To me, the show was always going to achieve closure with the death of Vanessa. And all the storylines this season were meant to be leaving characters at a place of appropriate and beautiful stasis. So, in the last episode, Dorian Gray is left alone staring at his portrait; Sir Malcolm finds the family he lost with Ethan; Ethan finds the surrogate father he lost with Sir Malcolm; the Creature realizes that he can’t be part of the human family or the human community and he’s left kneeling on a grave, which is, poetically, where he belongs. So it was apparent that this season was leading toward the ending… And along the way, what makes a show interesting is vibrant characters. I loved [Weeks’ character] Catriona.
What did I miss in this last episode? Where did Dorian do this???? He was standing inside in gallery?!
And I'm sorry, but what??? Where John belongs? Poetically or not??? Are you really fucking kidding me, Sir??????? John (so did actually Vanessa) are one those characters who just deserved to be happy and loved! And what did he gain now?
TVLINE | So Mr. Lyle going off to Egypt wasn’t setting up the arrival of the Mummy in a potential Season 4?
LOGAN | [Laughs] No, that was really just to give that character a beautiful ending for a homosexual man in 1892. I love these characters so much. I wanted to give them all fitting endings.
Why not????? Why fucking NOT??? and I'm pretty sorry, but yes? YOU do love the characters? So why you did this damn stupid end to them?
TVLINE | So you never considered promoting this as “the final season of Penny Dreadful“?
NEVINS | I considered it. But it seemed like the wrong way to do it. It wasn’t in the spirit of Penny Dreadful. I’m sensitive about it, because I think the show has a really passionate fan base. And [they’re] going to be very emotional.
TVLINE | What do you think the reaction will be when fans see the “The End” card?
NEVINS | I think they’ll be emotional. And maybe even devastated. But I hope, when they get past that, they’re going to feel satisfied. I think John has done a brilliant job of creating closure. Nobody can say he didn’t end the story on his terms.
FUCK OFF!! Seriously!!! Yes I AM devastated! And YES keep such a bullshit that he did it all on his terms to yourself! Because it IS bullshit!!!!!!!!!! You cancelled something unique just cause of money! I'm pretty sure Eva and all would have loved to do it at least for one or two more seasons!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A better and more fitting end for them all! So no...
But okay let's face the dooming happenings once again.... let us talk about my thoughts about the series and very last episode and the characters....about my misery....my agony....
Since Ep.7 I was so surprised about him that he really had some balls against Lily's lil Toy-girl
(which I found just boring even if I could understand from where all her hate came from....gosh that was so damn hrad) Though... I don't really liked Dorian since he killed off my beloved Angelique, but seeing him being bored by Lily's revenge trip was something I loved to see. Even if I didn't like what he finally did to her nonetheless... It was her very own fault, because she totally crossed his patience and turned into something he couldn't enjoy anymore, yes, but to see her on her knees - being Brona again and infront of men who wanted her to change that she become the 'perfect' woman to amuse them etc - well... esp for Victor who still didn't realise that everything he wished for was just an illusion, was just a wishful thinking of his obsessed mind! So when she told him her story about her darling baby girl and how the poor thing had to die I was crying so much... QQ I felt so damn sorry for Sarah and also Lily again which was more Brona to me then... So yes, the series achieved that my hate for this character (and oh I did hate her a lot!) turned into mercy and pity! QQ Almost the same counts for Dorian... and his immortal life, alone in his great gallery...
But what about now? Where Lily was/is going? Will she ever return to him like he prefigured?
Well it's surprisingly strange with this character, which was so cold and distanced at the beging, started to be such a lovely second-daddy for Vanessa then in S2 and totally rocked the whole third season! Just LIKE A BOSS! The same counted when he shoot Ethan's boring father... sry... Also how he flirted with this redhead Buffy-copy.... that was so cute! I was so worried he would have been the one who had to die by the end of that season... But I really really started to like him now... QQVictor::
Right from the start I actually liked Victor and felt sorry for him and his life even I never understood all the hate of him against my darling John! But he was a true friend for Vanessa and she 'loved' her monster for that. But sadly the series ruin that character for me Thanks to S3 and his sick obsession for Lily who told him many times that she was just pretending all the time (or rather since her memories came more and more back)... That was just so bloody ridiculous if you ask me and wasn't very advantageously for this character!
But what was about his really strong and sick morphine? Suddenly it was gone and done? Oo
He as a doctor should know that a Junkie( and he was one) can't stop that easily.. but well... and then in the very end he let her finally go, returned suddenly to his old friends after he congratulated Dr. Jekyll to his new and final (stupid) titel and 'rescues' himself/his character sympathy just by hugging Ethan, even if we all waited the whole time long and since S2 that Ethan could find out about what Victor did to the woman he once loved????Ethan::
So talking about him, was all the Western part really sooooo necessary to be that long? All the useless times walking through the sand with a needless witch who just died through a lil bullet?! I admit that the spell-action in the dessert with all the snakes were cool, BUT sorry was she just there or the proportion of females???????
(and that Ethan can have a nice shag at least in such a tough situation -.-)
It made sense that she was there in way since she survived the attack at her mother's, yes, but like that?
And when he returned with Malcolm and Kaetenay to London finally and knew exactly what he had to do (searching and helping/protecting Vanessa the woman he loved so much!) he just chilled by killing some random Vampires, being pushed from wall to wall by Dracula on the first meeting and the second too. NO Werwolf action any further?! He was just thrown through the place just like that and went then to Vanesssa for to kiss and kill her just like that AFTER ALL HAD THEY WENT THROUGH?????
I must admit that, as I said before, the hug with Victor and also the fact that he found a new father in Sir Malcolm too was so touching yes, but though... seriously?Vanessa/Amunet + Dracula/Lucifer::
Vanessa always (beside John and Sir Lyle) my most beloved Characters and now she was just ...shot? No fight? No - we will die together wolf? Why all these great words that all has to end in blood before?? Where? And sorry the statement - that her suffering had to come to an end is more than downright ridiculous too! Yes ofc it had to end.. but like that???? It was so simple, so lame and so....unworthy in my eyes! I cried, oh gosh I did.... thanks through the great performance of Eva and Josh but though... Where was the whole dramatic love scene I hoped for? The epic ending where he migh have gave his life for her during his fight against the bat? And where she realised who she is, what she had done and who is the real one she always loved??????????????
She was kissed by Dracula but wasn't at the time anyway?! Also all the stress by getting her in all the series/years of her life for nothing in the end? I'm sorry but Dracula never transformed into another form or even cared that the werwofl he said himself - feared so damn much- just walked up to his beloved Vanessa? No! Instead he preferred to play with Malcolm? WTF?
And now? what is he doing now? Returning to his museum?
How they also got out of that Vampire place???? Was Dracula finally so kind like - oh okay she is dead hm , damn, okay you can go and take her body with you????? Hello???????
And where was Lucifer in all of this?? His oh soooo great brother he was fighting against all the time too???? All the seasons through we saw Lucifer was trying to get Vanessa too but is so weak in the end as an archangel in fact just because there wasn't enough 'faith' for him? SERIOUSLY????????
And what was all the strange things about Amunet/AmunRa from the Egypt mythologist???????????? It doesn't make any real sense now.... sorry Mr. Logan! But if you're going to create an own fictional universe than please try to make it all logical within itself!Dr. Jekyll/Catriona Hartdegan::
I'm sure I'm not the only one who thought during the last episode WTF, right? I mean why to bring in two characters, one already right from the start, when they are in fact sooo unnecessary in the end? We all know the rough story of Dr. Jekyll and MR.Hyde and suddenly he is nothing more than a damn angry Indian-Doctor who just wants to own his father's titel??? Oh yes and invented a lil nice serum to make insane/brutal people nice again at least for a while???????
And this more or less cheap redhead Buffy copy might had her good moments (esp with Malcolm and Renfied), yes, but why? Just to replace Sugardaddy Lyle
(Simon Russel)(even if we knew that he had other work to do on stage at this time)
... Who was she? Why she knew Sir Lyle and so on... With more seasons there were such a great potential for those characters becoming also new members of the good old gang too, but NO. Nothing! And was so waiting for the moment when Dr. Jekyll turns into Mr. Hyde ...So and now in the end the man who owns my whole heart - John Clare::
He wasn't the reason why I started watching that series, no, but he was the reason why I continued it and lost my heart and soul to it! Logan created something so wonderful with his version of the classic Frankenstein creature like no one else before and Rory Kinnear gave him the life, the personality, the charm, the grace, love and strength this character truly needed as well! John was perfect in every single way- always was always will!
He own my heart and gained such an importance like Louis did to me in my life even if John was/is fictional.
And now Logan and Showtime took it away without any warning!!! I'm shattered, I'm depressed and upset! I know he didn't die or anything, but though... This should be his end? Unloved? Rejected (again) by his own wife now? NO JUST NO! QQ
Like Mycroft Holmes already said - Caring is not an advantage! And he seems right...QQ
But how could I not? This man/character is a gift! A gift of humanity and kindness!
I was so damn happy when he started to remember his past life and saw he had a family he could try to return to and then??? What did happen? His sweet lil son, the only one who ever loved him unconditionally died some days after he got back his life and a bit of happiness! And I was also (actually) SO HAPPY that his wife Marjorie seemed like an angel - so sweet and lovely and what happened now????
I still can't believe she did really say THAT? That she really forced him and hold a gun to his head with the words - Come back with him alive or don't come back at all!
Sure I can totally understand the lost of a mother, hell yes! BUT she still got her husband! And didn't she love him too? It's not that John wouldn't have explained it to her why he won't bring Jack to Victor and he was right! Not about the things he (again) said about himself and about his appearance because that's NOT TRUE! He is perfect absolutely perfect the way he is! Though...
If I would have been at her place I would after such a thing stuck on my husband more than ever! Because I would be SO Afraid to lose him again too before I will end up all by myself and totally alone!
And not enough that he lost his family because of this selfish heartless behaviour of Marjorie (like I lost my love for her through it QQ) he did also lose his one and only best friend who loved him the same way his son did!
Gosh I cried my eyes out when he brought Jack into the river and recites his beloved W. Wordsworth!
THERE was a time when meadow, grove, and stream,
The earth, and every common sight,
To me did seem
Apparell’d in celestial light,
The glory and the freshness of a dream.
It is not now as it hath been of yore;—
Turn wheresoe'er I may,
By night or day,
The things which I have seen I now can see no more.
But there’s a tree, of many, one,
A single field which I have look’d upon,
Both of them speak of something that is gone:
The pansy at my feet
Doth the same tale repeat:
Whither is fled the visionary gleam?
Where is it now, the glory and the dream?
Ode on Intimations of Immortality from Recollections of Early Childhood
But what about his real/former name now??? The answer on how he finally had to die? Why he wasn't surprised to see his creator at Vanessa's grave? Why he didn't remember in the end on Vanessa as well and their times in the padded cell?
Why making all the efforts of creating such a deep and unique character, to change an existing fiction if you are in the end so careless nonetheless about it/him? QQ
It makes still and again NO SENSE! QQ
Through the whole series I met new and wonderful people - friends and I'm thankful for it. I also got to know something breathtaking for a lifetime.... But I can't help myself, it hurts... it hurts so damn much - still! I know everything has to end one day, I really do, but not like this! The most painful goodbyes are the one's that are never said and never explained...
So... Please what we need to do to get one or more seasons??? QQ Please... pretty pretty please! This show is one of the best things which ever happened to me and one of the very best things on TV! Don't we deserve better?
I sometimes can understand a writers decision why changing things or let things ending that way, BUT in this case and with the ending of this show it just felt disappointing. I also don't think that Vanessa's death served well the purpose of the series! Death isn't always a solution to a problem (not even on screen)!
The entire third season was inconsistent from its beginning to its end: Ethan's relationship with Hecate and his father, the introduction of new characters who didn't have any real impact finally and except of Renfield who was like he was meant in the book, Vanessa's. sudden choice to deny Dracula's control over the world after she freely accepted him and her dark self etc... Another contradictory thing was the fact that Ethan easily agreed to kill Vanessa when in fact he was supposed to protect her?! Didn't he say - no harm would come to her as long as he walked the earth?
He could have ended her torment back in season one already! And you can still bring her back through Victor and his skills or bring her body to Egypt to Sir Lyle and see what will happen there! There are soooo many open doors as said, it's would be so easy to go for a 4th season!!